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	<title>Comments on: That&#8217;s hot &#8211; Web 2.0 and the empty vessel</title>
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	<description>Thoughts About Empowering Students with Technology</description>
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		<title>By: Terry Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help feeling that there are more empty vessels than the one we call Web 2.0.  I am beginning to think that schools are ghost ships, running aground because there is really no one at the helm.  

Your empty vessels expression is similar to a post I had the other day about cicada carapaces.  I believe we have the tools online now to begin to stop thinking about learning places as &#039;classrooms&#039; or &#039;schools&#039;.  In a way web X.X is merely shorthand to get us away from the old metaphors and paradigms, a crutch that will allow us to walk away from the old wreck that is the school and onto a new, bustling, alive vessel that will carry us someplace we all really want to go to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help feeling that there are more empty vessels than the one we call Web 2.0.  I am beginning to think that schools are ghost ships, running aground because there is really no one at the helm.  </p>
<p>Your empty vessels expression is similar to a post I had the other day about cicada carapaces.  I believe we have the tools online now to begin to stop thinking about learning places as &#8216;classrooms&#8217; or &#8216;schools&#8217;.  In a way web X.X is merely shorthand to get us away from the old metaphors and paradigms, a crutch that will allow us to walk away from the old wreck that is the school and onto a new, bustling, alive vessel that will carry us someplace we all really want to go to.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, &quot;2.0&quot; means two-way, or the fact that intermediaries are no longer necessary, whether in online business or online learning. The workers (learners) now have the tools to be co-creators of knowledge. Web/Learning 2.0 also means lack of control and that scares a lot of people. Perhaps in our lifetimes we may actually see democracy entering the workplace and the classroom. 

&quot;Ah, but a man&#039;s reach should exceed his grasp, or what&#039;s a heaven for?”</description>
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<p>&#8220;Ah, but a man&#8217;s reach should exceed his grasp, or what&#8217;s a heaven for?”</p>
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