Comments on: Facility vs. Fluency http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2007/07/08/facility-vs-fluency/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=facility-vs-fluency Thoughts About Empowering Students with Technology Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:39:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Sylvia Martinez http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2007/07/08/facility-vs-fluency/comment-page-1/#comment-2353 Sylvia Martinez Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:01:03 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2007/07/08/facility-vs-fluency/#comment-2353 I appreciate your comments, Carolyn. I think we have to be as precise as we can when we talk about things like expectations. Sure expectations have changed, but that change may or may not imply that learning has changed. I believe it's always part of the package of being an educator to be aware of the world of the people you are teaching. Judging whether it's a good or bad trait seems like a sidebar discussion - not really relevant and sort of like complaining about the music kids listen to these days... I think schools do move slowly, but it's just a distraction to blame technology for teachers not connecting with students, mistrusting students, or treating students like they are unknowable aliens from planet X. As a flip side of that coin, it's just as silly to say that technology will solve thiese problems. I appreciate your comments, Carolyn. I think we have to be as precise as we can when we talk about things like expectations. Sure expectations have changed, but that change may or may not imply that learning has changed. I believe it’s always part of the package of being an educator to be aware of the world of the people you are teaching. Judging whether it’s a good or bad trait seems like a sidebar discussion – not really relevant and sort of like complaining about the music kids listen to these days…

I think schools do move slowly, but it’s just a distraction to blame technology for teachers not connecting with students, mistrusting students, or treating students like they are unknowable aliens from planet X. As a flip side of that coin, it’s just as silly to say that technology will solve thiese problems.

]]> By: Carolyn Foote http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2007/07/08/facility-vs-fluency/comment-page-1/#comment-2346 Carolyn Foote Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:34:59 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2007/07/08/facility-vs-fluency/#comment-2346 I was thinking about Joyce Valenza's comment in her session at NECC when reading this--that we can't let our students settle for a "good enough/why bother" world. Although I agree with your comment that many students have technology skills, many of them aren't that information savvy. But it seems to me that many of the ones that have the facility, also have the savvy--but a lot of others are still "wandering in the dark" online. It is too often assumed that all students "know what they're doing" and therefore don't need guidance or support. I do think our students learn differently, as per some things that Doug Johnson spoke about in his NECC session and that came up in the session VErizon sponsored. They are definitely quicker at everything....whether that is a good or bad trait--their expectation is that things are more immediate. This is an area where I feel like schools are struggling, because as institutions we move so slowly. I was thinking about Joyce Valenza’s comment in her session at NECC when reading this–that we can’t let our students settle for a “good enough/why bother” world.

Although I agree with your comment that many students have technology skills, many of them aren’t that information savvy. But it seems to me that many of the ones that have the facility, also have the savvy–but a lot of others are still “wandering in the dark” online. It is too often assumed that all students “know what they’re doing” and therefore don’t need guidance or support.

I do think our students learn differently, as per some things that Doug Johnson spoke about in his NECC session and that came up in the session VErizon sponsored. They are definitely quicker at everything….whether that is a good or bad trait–their expectation is that things are more immediate. This is an area where I feel like schools are struggling, because as institutions we move so slowly.

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