Comments on: Creating successful change http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=creating-successful-change Thoughts About Empowering Students with Technology Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:39:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Bill Kerr http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-18574 Bill Kerr Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-18574 Noel Wilson developed a stages of group development model in the 80s which went: dependence -> rebellion -> cohesion -> autonomy He made some interesting points along the way. Cohesion feels great but may not be great. Everyone is happy with the leader and the leader is good at keeping people happy. Some of the features of autonomy are similar to some of the features of rebellion. In both, people speak their minds. If a group has reached autonomy (rare) then the speaking out leads to discussion where differing views are listened to and respected but argued with. So, I'm agreeing with Al and arguing that authoritarian / consensus does not cover the full range of collaborative states. Noel Wilson developed a stages of group development model in the 80s which went:
dependence -> rebellion -> cohesion -> autonomy

He made some interesting points along the way. Cohesion feels great but may not be great. Everyone is happy with the leader and the leader is good at keeping people happy.

Some of the features of autonomy are similar to some of the features of rebellion. In both, people speak their minds. If a group has reached autonomy (rare) then the speaking out leads to discussion where differing views are listened to and respected but argued with.

So, I’m agreeing with Al and arguing that authoritarian / consensus does not cover the full range of collaborative states.

]]> By: Sharon Betts http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-17770 Sharon Betts Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:12:38 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-17770 Well thought out, Sylvia. I find myself in on the lines of your drawing. Not authoritarian, but sometimes too far ahead in "vision" from the staff I am trying to get consensus among. Maybe I am unreasonable. :) Well thought out, Sylvia. I find myself in on the lines of your drawing. Not authoritarian, but sometimes too far ahead in “vision” from the staff I am trying to get consensus among. Maybe I am unreasonable. :)

]]> By: Alec Couros http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-17725 Alec Couros Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:17:47 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-17725 Well said and well designed Sylvia. Great ideas! Well said and well designed Sylvia. Great ideas!

]]> By: Pat http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-17721 Pat Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:14:51 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-17721 I really liked the visual and think it was right on target. When we start seeing things in this way, it makes it easier to see which direction we need to go in, kind of like a road map. I really liked the visual and think it was right on target. When we start seeing things in this way, it makes it easier to see which direction we need to go in, kind of like a road map.

]]> By: Sylvia Martinez http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-17720 Sylvia Martinez Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:47:52 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-17720 Hi Al, I don't think so. I think part of being unreasonable means that you can maintain a stronger vision. In my head, unreasonable is different than authoritarian. I think being unreasonable pushes you up higher on the vertical control axis in this diagram. And like I said, this drawing is just a thought. I'm happy to listen to ideas about adjusting it. Hi Al,
I don’t think so. I think part of being unreasonable means that you can maintain a stronger vision. In my head, unreasonable is different than authoritarian. I think being unreasonable pushes you up higher on the vertical control axis in this diagram.

And like I said, this drawing is just a thought. I’m happy to listen to ideas about adjusting it.

]]> By: Al http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/comment-page-1/#comment-17719 Al Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:05 +0000 http://blog.genyes.com/index.php/2008/02/19/creating-successful-change/#comment-17719 I am confused. Isn't your blog entry, "The art of being an unreasonable educator," in direct conflict with what you are saying in, "Creating successful change?" Please clarify. :-? I am confused. Isn’t your blog entry, “The art of being an unreasonable educator,” in direct conflict with what you are saying in, “Creating successful change?” Please clarify. :-?

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