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		<title>By: AUP Driven by Vision not Protection :: Watch Your Bobber</title>
		<link>http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/05/08/what-message-does-your-aup-send-home/comment-page-1/#comment-133654</link>
		<dc:creator>AUP Driven by Vision not Protection :: Watch Your Bobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sylvia Martinez&#8217;s What message does your AUP send home? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Library Bear</title>
		<link>http://blog.genyes.org/index.php/2008/05/08/what-message-does-your-aup-send-home/comment-page-1/#comment-129903</link>
		<dc:creator>Library Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this discussion to be very enlightening. I am one of two people mainly responsible for writing and enforcing our AUP&#039;s. I hate it. I am tired of telling everyone what they can&#039;t do. The list gets longer every year. Of course there are actions we must limit for the efficient functioning and safety of the entire network, and personal safety, but the kids just are constantly playing a game of keep-away all the time. Our staff members are almost as bad, sending spam, making derisive comments about each other and indidual students in school e-mails. Does anyone have a sample of an AUP that emphasizes the more positive aspects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this discussion to be very enlightening. I am one of two people mainly responsible for writing and enforcing our AUP&#8217;s. I hate it. I am tired of telling everyone what they can&#8217;t do. The list gets longer every year. Of course there are actions we must limit for the efficient functioning and safety of the entire network, and personal safety, but the kids just are constantly playing a game of keep-away all the time. Our staff members are almost as bad, sending spam, making derisive comments about each other and indidual students in school e-mails. Does anyone have a sample of an AUP that emphasizes the more positive aspects?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Bubnic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Bubnic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When does privacy go too far?

Recently, a middle school student at one of our local school districts was proclaimed the national winner of the &lt;b&gt;Doodle4Google&lt;/B&gt; contest.  The district was proud of her accomplishment and they wanted to publicize it on their web site.  But because of the rules of their AUP, they were not allowed to mention her name!  You could go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/doodle4google/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doodle4Google&lt;/a&gt; page and see her name.  However, the local district was left to merely announce that &lt;b&gt; &quot;one of their students&quot; &lt;/b&gt;had won!

I see that their site has been recently updated however.  The student is now given full credit.</description>
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<p>Recently, a middle school student at one of our local school districts was proclaimed the national winner of the <b>Doodle4Google</b> contest.  The district was proud of her accomplishment and they wanted to publicize it on their web site.  But because of the rules of their AUP, they were not allowed to mention her name!  You could go to <a href="http://www.google.com/doodle4google/" rel="nofollow">Doodle4Google</a> page and see her name.  However, the local district was left to merely announce that <b> &#8220;one of their students&#8221; </b>had won!</p>
<p>I see that their site has been recently updated however.  The student is now given full credit.</p>
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		<title>By: LangLabCindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LangLabCindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas and discussion!  We&#039;re in the process of re-wording our AUP and are hoping to change the P from Policy to Principle.  The thinking is that we want to be guided by principles and not restricted by policies, but we&#039;ll see if the lawyer will bless it.  Also, we&#039;re hoping to go simple - with Doug Johnson&#039;s idea of 3P&#039;s - respect Privacy, Property and use aPpropriately.  It&#039;s clear, simple, and easy to remember.  We&#039;ll be working out a supplemental document (hopefully WITH student input) as to what those principles look like in practice, and we&#039;ll be looking for ways to keep the dialog going throughout the school year.  Right now, the document is from 2004 and we are all in violation of it!  The School AUP 2.0 wiki led me here, and I&#039;m grateful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas and discussion!  We&#8217;re in the process of re-wording our AUP and are hoping to change the P from Policy to Principle.  The thinking is that we want to be guided by principles and not restricted by policies, but we&#8217;ll see if the lawyer will bless it.  Also, we&#8217;re hoping to go simple &#8211; with Doug Johnson&#8217;s idea of 3P&#8217;s &#8211; respect Privacy, Property and use aPpropriately.  It&#8217;s clear, simple, and easy to remember.  We&#8217;ll be working out a supplemental document (hopefully WITH student input) as to what those principles look like in practice, and we&#8217;ll be looking for ways to keep the dialog going throughout the school year.  Right now, the document is from 2004 and we are all in violation of it!  The School AUP 2.0 wiki led me here, and I&#8217;m grateful!</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett Vries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett Vries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work!</description>
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		<title>By: jeffmason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffmason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sylvia &quot;tech support&quot;
The  IT department should be supporting learning and should not be the arbiters of content, curriculum and pedagogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sylvia &#8220;tech support&#8221;<br />
The  IT department should be supporting learning and should not be the arbiters of content, curriculum and pedagogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smiles -- just to spread it a bit more.....

I believe what you said about &quot;Otherwise it’s just another bunch of words from somewhere else&quot; is exactly what is happening.

I believe a lot of schools (more than we would probably care to admit) are grabbing AUP&#039;s off the internet, doing a simple find and replace to put their school name in, and are having their students/parents sign an AUP that was not even written for their school -- probably never haven read it before mass producing it for signatures.

Grins, I can safely say this, because I know one of my past schools did, and I got the idea from another school.

So, while yes, I agree it COULD be a legal document - how I am seeing them used, distributed, and not fine-tuned for &quot;that&quot; schools use -- basically we have again printed out useless pieces of paper -- and for what purpose -- just to say &quot;We have an AUP?&quot;

Smiles, now I am stirred up a bit.
And THAT is a good thing.
Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiles &#8212; just to spread it a bit more&#8230;..</p>
<p>I believe what you said about &#8220;Otherwise it’s just another bunch of words from somewhere else&#8221; is exactly what is happening.</p>
<p>I believe a lot of schools (more than we would probably care to admit) are grabbing AUP&#8217;s off the internet, doing a simple find and replace to put their school name in, and are having their students/parents sign an AUP that was not even written for their school &#8212; probably never haven read it before mass producing it for signatures.</p>
<p>Grins, I can safely say this, because I know one of my past schools did, and I got the idea from another school.</p>
<p>So, while yes, I agree it COULD be a legal document &#8211; how I am seeing them used, distributed, and not fine-tuned for &#8220;that&#8221; schools use &#8212; basically we have again printed out useless pieces of paper &#8212; and for what purpose &#8212; just to say &#8220;We have an AUP?&#8221;</p>
<p>Smiles, now I am stirred up a bit.<br />
And THAT is a good thing.<br />
Jen</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, thanks for bringing the reality of the language here. It&#039;s tough to see how this helps anyone. Legal language is not a substitute for policy.

Jen, I&#039;d be tempted to say, &quot;let&#039;s put up a wiki and we can all work on it together&quot; however, I think that every local stakeholder group has to own this issue. Otherwise it&#039;s just another bunch of words from somewhere else.

David, The AUP shouldn&#039;t be the only thing that covers technology, or ethical behavior for that matter. But right now, it is often the ONLY message that parents and students get about school computer use. The other problem is that they are so one-sided, it&#039;s a sure way to have students ignore them. And we often call them &quot;contracts&quot; -- as if there was some two-way agreement between the signing parties. Students clearly hear the message, that they are not to be trusted.

How about an AUP that lists rights for the student (or for that matter, teachers) to working, usable hardware, to an Internet connection that hasn&#039;t been filtered down to uselessness, to an email system that works, or to timely tech support?

A contract is two-way street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, thanks for bringing the reality of the language here. It&#8217;s tough to see how this helps anyone. Legal language is not a substitute for policy.</p>
<p>Jen, I&#8217;d be tempted to say, &#8220;let&#8217;s put up a wiki and we can all work on it together&#8221; however, I think that every local stakeholder group has to own this issue. Otherwise it&#8217;s just another bunch of words from somewhere else.</p>
<p>David, The AUP shouldn&#8217;t be the only thing that covers technology, or ethical behavior for that matter. But right now, it is often the ONLY message that parents and students get about school computer use. The other problem is that they are so one-sided, it&#8217;s a sure way to have students ignore them. And we often call them &#8220;contracts&#8221; &#8212; as if there was some two-way agreement between the signing parties. Students clearly hear the message, that they are not to be trusted.</p>
<p>How about an AUP that lists rights for the student (or for that matter, teachers) to working, usable hardware, to an Internet connection that hasn&#8217;t been filtered down to uselessness, to an email system that works, or to timely tech support?</p>
<p>A contract is two-way street.</p>
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		<title>By: David Warlick</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Warlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that an AUP might be an opportunity for putting some legal teeth behind some things that we&#039;ve all be trying to get going. For instance, we tend to think of AUPs as pertaining to the technology.  But it wouldn&#039;t be a far stretch to expand it to include ethical use of information as well.  

An AUP should be empowering, not dis-empowering.  Again, we should look at AUPs as an opportunity, not just a CMA tool.

Thanks, Sylvia.  I&#039;ve been thinking about this a lot lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that an AUP might be an opportunity for putting some legal teeth behind some things that we&#8217;ve all be trying to get going. For instance, we tend to think of AUPs as pertaining to the technology.  But it wouldn&#8217;t be a far stretch to expand it to include ethical use of information as well.  </p>
<p>An AUP should be empowering, not dis-empowering.  Again, we should look at AUPs as an opportunity, not just a CMA tool.</p>
<p>Thanks, Sylvia.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about this a lot lately.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferWagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferWagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 05:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sylvia

Thanks for bringing this up -- I had brought up the same during a panel at a recent conference and was pretty much shhhhhed on what I was trying to say.

I know at my school -- our AUP is a discipline plan and not a plan of usage.  However, our network is so locked down that the AUP at times seems ridiculous because they can&#039;t really do the things the AUP tells them not to (unless they hack into the system!)
I would love to change the wording, but the &quot;higher ups&quot; feel that an AUP protects us -- not sure from what we are protecting......but for now, it is their decision.

I would truly enjoy having a parent/student/teacher/admin collective group that works on an AUP together.....one that shares the possibilities instead of the consequences.

Jennifer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sylvia</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this up &#8212; I had brought up the same during a panel at a recent conference and was pretty much shhhhhed on what I was trying to say.</p>
<p>I know at my school &#8212; our AUP is a discipline plan and not a plan of usage.  However, our network is so locked down that the AUP at times seems ridiculous because they can&#8217;t really do the things the AUP tells them not to (unless they hack into the system!)<br />
I would love to change the wording, but the &#8220;higher ups&#8221; feel that an AUP protects us &#8212; not sure from what we are protecting&#8230;&#8230;but for now, it is their decision.</p>
<p>I would truly enjoy having a parent/student/teacher/admin collective group that works on an AUP together&#8230;..one that shares the possibilities instead of the consequences.</p>
<p>Jennifer</p>
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